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  • Duty, responsibility, whichever you want to use. Wayzz could represent the power of the stalwart determination to one's duty, which might explain why he's a turtle. Steady, patient, and undeterrable. Wayzz seems deeply connected to the other Miraculouses (though we don't know if Tikki and Plagg can sense other kwamis), and if he is the kwami of duty or responsibility, that would make sense. If Wayzz's Miraculous grants longevity to its bearer, that might be why- they are always intended to be the Great Guardian. While it may be a more experienced member for a time, the Miraculous Chest always fall to the hands of the Turtle. The sub-part of being the Turtle and the keeper of the kwami of duty/responsibility is having a duty to or being responsible for the other Miraculouses.

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    • I really like that idea! My theory, though, is that he's the kwami of wisdom—partly because Master Fu fits the "wise old master" trope, and partly because the name Wayzz sounds like the word "wise". And wisdom generally increases with age, which could be why the Turtle Miraculous grants longevity.

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    • Lilanette wrote:
      I really like that idea! My theory, though, is that he's the kwami of wisdom—partly because Master Fu fits the "wise old master" trope, and partly because the name Wayzz sounds like the word "wise". And wisdom generally increases with age, which could be why the Turtle Miraculous grants longevity.

      Indeed. That was my initial speculation, but as with many things, I thought I'd take things in a different direction, on the off-chance the obvious is wrong, haha. I was thinking his name was literally just "ways". Which could be as in "behaviour", or "ways" could mean the ways of thought, too. I was speculating the former, behaviour, and thinking that "duty" would lend to the notion that the Turtle might be the most durable, defensive unit.

      Either way would go with my speculation that kwamis and their powers are given to people who display their opposite traits in places, or else those whose lives and personalities would drastically improve from the kwami.

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    • Actually, since turtles are often used as symbols of protection (turtle shells at least), I think that Wayzz is the Kwami of Protection.  Not to mention Master Fu is a healer of Kwami, which would lead a bit more credence to the 'protection' bit.  

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    • Bluegem81 wrote:
      Actually, since turtles are often used as symbols of protection (turtle shells at least), I think that Wayzz is the Kwami of Protection.  Not to mention Master Fu is a healer of Kwami, which would lead a bit more credence to the 'protection' bit.  

      It's possible, but is protection an abstract thing?

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    • Not really, if you look at the others, Tikki is the Kwami of Creation, Plagg is the Kwami of Destruction.  

      It's actually no different than having the Senshi named off of different aspects, like Jupiter being the Senshi of Thunder and Protection, or Venus being the Senshi of Love and Beauty...

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    • Bluegem81 wrote:
      Not really, if you look at the others, Tikki is the Kwami of Creation, Plagg is the Kwami of Destruction.  

      It's actually no different than having the Senshi named off of different aspects, like Jupiter being the Senshi of Thunder and Protection, or Venus being the Senshi of Love and Beauty...

      Then he isn't the one of Protection, if it isn't an abstract concept.

      Well, this isn't Sailor Moon.

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    • Actually, it's pretty much Sailor Moon.  Magical girls, magic items, a group of teens saving the city from an unknown evil who has a unlimited supply of henchmen and is aiming to get a hold of something that the main heroes have?  

      And it isn't all that different.  One can Create, one can Destroy, one can Protect.


      (also, the English version of Marinette aka Ladybug is the SAME person that does Sailor Mars!)

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    • Bluegem81 wrote:
      Actually, it's pretty much Sailor Moon.  Magical girls, magic items, a group of teens saving the city from an unknown evil who has a unlimited supply of henchmen and is aiming to get a hold of something that the main heroes have?  

      And it isn't all that different.  One can Create, one can Destroy, one can Protect.


      (also, the English version of Marinette aka Ladybug is the SAME person that does Sailor Mars!)

      But it is not Sailor Moon. It's got similarities, but by that logic you can say Captain Planet is "pretty much" Sailor Moon.

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    • If the group is working as a coherent unit (which they will have to in Heroes' Day), every kwami must serve a purpose for the group. My prediction is:

      Tikki = The Kwami of Creation

      Plagg = The Kwami of Destruction

      Wayzz = The Kwami of Protection

      Pollen = The Kwami of Healing or Rejuvination

      Trixxi = The Kwami of Strategy 

      I don't know what purpose the Moth or Peacock Miraculous would've served. 

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    • Rachieandthewaves wrote:
      If the group is working as a coherent unit (which they will have to in Heroes' Day), every kwami must serve a purpose for the group. My prediction is:

      Tikki = The Kwami of Creation

      Plagg = The Kwami of Destruction

      Wayzz = The Kwami of Protection

      Pollen = The Kwami of Healing or Rejuvination

      Trixxi = The Kwami of Strategy 

      I don't know what purpose the Moth or Peacock Miraculous would've served. 

      I really wish people would get off the "healing" thing for the Bee... Healing makes little sense when you are in a suit that means you cannot be damaged. Bees represent more than just healing.

      Supposedly the Moth is Generosity, but this isn't confirmed in the show.

      I personally think Wayzz is the Kwami of Duty (and by extension, protection), Pollen is the Kwami of Love (and by extension, teamwork), Trixx is the Kwami of Adaptability (and by extension, mischief), Nooroo is the Kwami of Compassion (and by extension, generosity), and Duusu is the Kwami of Guidance (and by extension, watchfulness). Or something to that effect.

      Tikki and Plagg's good/bad luck deal seems to be an extension of being the beings of creation/destruction. So I think something similiar is possible for the other five. Wayzz, who is the kwami that represents the spirit of duty, is also compelled to protect people through his sense of duty. Pollen is the kwami that represents feelings of love and caring, and so she is the heart of the team that drives them to do their best together. Trixx as the kwami that represents adapatability can use her ability to adapt to any situation to suddenly change the situation and cause mischief to confuse the foe. Nooroo's compassion for others leads him to be generous with his powers. Duusu's power of guidance also drives her to be watchful of those she guides and be mindful of others whom she could guide.

      Something like that, anyway.

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    • Thearomalady wrote:

      I really wish people would get off the "healing" thing for the Bee... Healing makes little sense when you are in a suit that means you cannot be damaged. Bees represent more than just healing.

      If anything, I always saw bees as representing the "all for one" mentality of a hive, which is why I think the Bee's power (assuming it has one) is being able to clone oneself into a small hiveminded army.

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    • Maetch wrote:

      If anything, I always saw bees as representing the "all for one" mentality of a hive, which is why I think the Bee's power (assuming it has one) is being able to clone oneself into a small hiveminded army.

      I think Marinette might lose her mind with a legion of Chloes, lol. Cloning would work for the teamwork thing I proposed, if it does have some major power thing. But my theory is that the Bee's innate power, like Hawk Moth's empathy and controlling powers, is to help the team work better together, so Pollen is more or less Nooroo's opposite in terms of how their powers work. The Bee, to me, is meant to be a supportive unit. I think something like that, one that is not the most useful on its own (except maybe until his or her teammates have fallen), is good for someone like Chloe, who once she gets her superpowers I'm pretty sure is going to tote herself as better than Ladybug. The Bee is humble since it is a bumble bee. Humble bumble bee.

      Do very much dig the idea of the Bee being a musketeer, though. Friends/Frenemies with La Coccinelle.

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    • Thearomalady wrote:

      Bluegem81 wrote:
      Actually, it's pretty much Sailor Moon.  Magical girls, magic items, a group of teens saving the city from an unknown evil who has a unlimited supply of henchmen and is aiming to get a hold of something that the main heroes have?  

      And it isn't all that different.  One can Create, one can Destroy, one can Protect.


      (also, the English version of Marinette aka Ladybug is the SAME person that does Sailor Mars!)

      But it is not Sailor Moon. It's got similarities, but by that logic you can say Captain Planet is "pretty much" Sailor Moon.


      All I said was that the shows were similar that you had a group of teenagers given special items with special powers and coming together to combat a bigger evil.  This show is based on magical items with spirits/kwami based on aspects to guide the heroes/heroines.  Captain Planet had the kids given rings off of elemental powers, and Gaea was there to guide them.  Sailor Moon had five girls given planet powers, and had their two cats (Luna and Artemis) to guide them.  


      Not all that different from say Power Rangers, or any other franchise where a character - or characters - is given a special item/power to help protect the world.

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    • Bluegem81 wrote:

      All I said was that the shows were similar that you had a group of teenagers given special items with special powers and coming together to combat a bigger evil.  This show is based on magical items with spirits/kwami based on aspects to guide the heroes/heroines.  Captain Planet had the kids given rings off of elemental powers, and Gaea was there to guide them.  Sailor Moon had five girls given planet powers, and had their two cats (Luna and Artemis) to guide them.  


      Not all that different from say Power Rangers, or any other franchise where a character - or characters - is given a special item/power to help protect the world.

      This conversation started becayse you said Wayzz is the kwami of protection and I asked if "protection" was an abstract concept. You said no, then started talking about Sailor Moon.

      Kwamis are creatures that represent abstract concepts. That's why I asked. Every kwami represents a different abstract concept like love, devotion, creation, destruction, passion, emotion, generosity, friendship, maths, science...

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