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  • On Tumblr I found this link that analyzes the superhero-attires of the series' Miraculous Holder:

    http://clabrice.tumblr.com/post/161015284910/the-various-miraculous-holders-also-the-ancient

    Basically, this page analyzes the personalities of the various Miraculous Holders ONLY and EXCLUSIVELY by their costumes (I do NOT speak about the colors and the animal of the Miraculous, but about the structure of each costume).

    I mean, the various historical Ladybugs we saw in the series had only the red color and the black spots in common, but for the rest they had completely different costumes, which surely represent their individual beliefs and dreams about what a real hero is.

    I think if Marinette used the Black Cat Miraculous, she would not have the same identical Chat Noir's costume, but a costume that best suits her and her personality.

    Something like this

    http://68.media.tumblr.com/cc6308e0f6c65d78822a0718577f7ad5/tumblr_oo7udsOtIQ1tekrvuo1_1280.jpg

    So: can you be able to analize Ladybug's, Chat Noir's, Hawk Moth's, Vixen's, Queen Bee's and Le Paon's personalities ONLY by their costumes?

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    • Alya's costume appears to be inspired by her favorite comic book heroine Majestia (namely how they both share the distinctive vest-and-coattail design), no doubt owing to her love for superheroes in general and emphasizing that she wants to emulate them as much as possible.

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    • I'll throw some ideas in. I don't think it's possible to think out a Miraculous holder's personality based solely on their outfit, but their outfit can still hint at the character's desires, emotions, inspirations, and purposes.

      Both Ladybug and Cat Noir's outfits seem to be based on regular superhero outfits. If either (or both) of them get a new version of their outfit, I'm interested to see if they're similar to their original outfits or they have clear inspiration.

      Hawk Moth's outfit is very classy, formal, and professional, other than the supervillain-esque mask covering his face. He makes me think of a businessman or a presenter, which makes sense considering his desire to manipulate others and be the boss over villains doing his bidding.

      Queen Bee is also very superhero-based, but her outfit has a bit of details one could easily imagine her civilian identity liking. The mask looks like sunglasses, or at least the sides of them look like stylized eyelashes, and she has high heels instead of flat feet, elevating her (symbolically above others) and seeming like some of a shoe-loving girl would be happy in. Queen Bee appears heroic yet fashionable and regal.

      With Vixen, I personally find that her outfit reminds me of a concertist, with her pulled-back hair, coat-tail, and swan-neck collar. It makes sense for her, considering that her weapon is a flute. However, a detail an editor ingeniously spotted is that there are some similarities between the Fox Miraculous holder's outfit and Majestia's outfit, like the overcoat top with the coat-tail, the swan-neck collar, and pointed designs. She may have been very inspired by a comic book superhero she cherishes, and her suit has references to it.

      Finally, Le Paon is similar to Hawk Moth in looking classy and sophisticated. The design reminds me of a femme fatale, a woman who, as stated by Wikipedia, "a mysterious and seductive woman whose charms ensnare her lovers, often leading them into compromising, dangerous, and deadly situations." Le Paon looks gorgeous and striking, but by their appearance, they also come off as someone who could do a lot a harm towards others without a hint of remose. Also, with their hand fan thingy and cocktail hat, they appear secretive, mysterious, and not easy to comprehend. If their desires and thoughts were leaning towards a beautiful yet cold and lethal appearance, their supervillain outfit reflects it strongly.

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    • Tansyflower wrote:
      I'll throw some ideas in. I don't think it's possible to think out a Miraculous holder's personality based solely on their outfit, but their outfit can still hint at the character's desires, emotions, inspirations, and purposes.

      Both Ladybug and Cat Noir's outfits seem to be based on regular superhero outfits. If either (or both) of them get a new version of their outfit, I'm interested to see if they're similar to their original outfits or they have clear inspiration.

      Hawk Moth's outfit is very classy, formal, and professional, other than the supervillain-esque mask covering his face. He makes me think of a businessman or a presenter, which makes sense considering his desire to manipulate others and be the boss over villains doing his bidding.

      Queen Bee is also very superhero-based, but her outfit has a bit of details one could easily imagine her civilian identity liking. The mask looks like sunglasses, or at least the sides of them look like stylized eyelashes, and she has high heels instead of flat feet, elevating her (symbolically above others) and seeming like some of a shoe-loving girl would be happy in. Queen Bee appears heroic yet fashionable and regal.

      With Vixen, I personally find that her outfit reminds me of a concertist, with her pulled-back hair, coat-tail, and swan-neck collar. It makes sense for her, considering that her weapon is a flute. However, a detail an editor ingeniously spotted is that there are some similarities between the Fox Miraculous holder's outfit and Majestia's outfit, like the overcoat top with the coat-tail, the swan-neck collar, and pointed designs. She may have been very inspired by a comic book superhero she cherishes, and her suit has references to it.

      Finally, Le Paon is similar to Hawk Moth in looking classy and sophisticated. The design reminds me of a femme fatale, a woman who, as stated by Wikipedia, "a mysterious and seductive woman whose charms ensnare her lovers, often leading them into compromising, dangerous, and deadly situations." Le Paon looks gorgeous and striking, but by their appearance, they also come off as someone who could do a lot a harm towards others without a hint of remose. Also, with their hand fan thingy and cocktail hat, they appear secretive, mysterious, and not easy to comprehend. If their desires and thoughts were leaning towards a beautiful yet cold and lethal appearance, their supervillain outfit reflects it strongly.

      Indeed it is difficult to analyze Ladybug's costume, but personally, I think is because, at least initially, Marinette does not have any particular ideas about herself, thinking she is just a poor klutz without personality, so we have a very minimalist costume, whose only purpose is to represent the Ladybug's animal, and to hide her identity. Marinette is also the kind of person who deals with the substance, not the appearance. So she does NOT care about things like high heels (Queen Bee), hoods (Carapace), or elegant clothes (Hawk Moth and Le Paon), which is ironic for an aspiring fashion designer...

      About Chat Noir's costume: let's remember that Adrian is a great fan of manga and anime, and although we don't know his favorite genres, he seems that his various techniques to making Ladybug fall in love with him, come from these sources. His costume gives me the idea of a "Bad Boy" (symbolizing his desire for freedom and breaking the rules), which, in another context, it could make think about a dangerous and formidable fighter; however it is united to a love for stupid puns and a Don Juan's personality (we see him testing his court tactics with least one girl, to see which of these might be successful with Ladybug, a pity that THIS girl is Marinette!); in summary: a parody of the romantic superhero who poses as cool, dark and fascinating...


      Now that we know that Nino will receive the Turtle Miraculous and will become Carapace, talking about the "superhero-attires" argument, would you be able to analyze Carapace's costume?
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    • Tinomartino wrote:

      Now that we know that Nino will receive the Turtle Miraculous and will become Carapace, talking about the "superhero-attires" argument, would you be able to analyze Carapace's costume?


      I'll try! I'll admit I wasn't expecting this character design with this character, let alone the Miraculous, but I'll throw two cents in.


      I admit I don't feel like I know Carapace's secret identity as well as I wish I did yet, but from all we've seen, I know he's a loyal, supportive, and easygoing friend that likes DJ-ing and films. His outfit seems rather detailed compared to the others, and it reminds me of a superhero outfit we could see in a Marvel/DC superhero film nowadays. I guess his civilian identity's enjoyment of cool things may come into play? The hood, an element I'm really happy his outfit has, may not be the most necessary, but it and his goggles add a cool and mysterious vibe to him.

      Also, on Cat Noir's outfit, I forgot about his love of manga and anime. Cat boys and cat girls are common in Japanese shows and books, and their influence is not hard to miss when looking at Cat Noir. I love your thoughts on the outfits!

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    • CboyC95 wrote:
      I've seen fanart that are much better than this.

      I'm not sure what you mean by this, at least with your supporting evidence. A lot of the designs you linked to are fans' interpretations and attempts to replicate the final concept designs, so I don't understand how those are better if a lot of them are the same, except the first one (and that we one we didn't know about until very recently). If you mean the concept images themselves, those aren't final CGI models, and they are only used for reference when creating them in the computer.

      A lot of Rena Rouge's designs in those links are based on Volpina's design, and that's not fun for me personally, as I want her to have her own spin of a Fox Miraculous holder appearance and not a copy. The Volpina costume has been tarnished by Volpina, making it a bad idea for a superhero to wear the same outfit, and even Volpina's outfit was based on another Fox Miraculous holder, the one displayed in the Miraculous book. This isn't to say that similar themes throughout all fox-themed heroes/villains in the series, but I like the unique tweaks and touches that Rena Rouge has that differ her from an ancient superhero and a recent villain.

      I'll also admit, I'm biased to the hoodie design because of Sparrow, but I really love Carapace's hoodie and his concept design. I've seen fan art utilize similar ideas, and while that's awesome, I think the concept design really pulls together elements a lot of people were expecting for him and new elements that weren't immediately considered.

      I understand your disappointment and preferences, and you have a right to them. However, the designs are what they are now, and fan influence can't be allowed by crew members if they don't have legal permission and don't want to be sued. In addition, we haven't seen the designs in their official final forms until we see them in-show and in CGI. Personally, I really like the final designs of the new characters for the reasons I stated above, their designs lining up well with character personalities and interests, and I prefer them over most fan designs. There's no way the show could've satisfied everyone, but hopefully, seeing the suits properly will help to see how well they work and how well they don't design-wise.

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    • How do you do spoiler markers, I cannot remember how the heck they work. Beware of spoilers below because I still can't puzzle them out.

      Carapace's outfit is very Robin Hood-like, and I like that his uses goggles, not a mask. I love the hood, I think it suits his civilian self, which I agree, we don't really know that well. He's laid-back, fun-loving, feircely loyal, and true. I'd say he'd probably be in Hufflepuff if he went to Hogwarts. However, I feel like Nino is not the most hard-working, patient, or responsible. It's just this impression I get off him. Like he doesn't like to be responsible (but he is when he needs to be), he's not the most patient person (this I can firmly say I get the impression off him from "Horrificator"), and he just seems so laid-back I see him as not liking to work super hard. This kind of extends into the outfit, though.

      His suit looks like it was designed with comfort in mind, followed by defence (notice he has padding on his knees). Movement was not something in mind for it, either, because the hood, weapon, and padding jutting out would have wind resistance, unlike Ladybug and Cat Noir's much sleeker designs. So I would guess he is not meant to be up in the front lines, but serve a support role in battle, like Cat Noir does. I would also guess his outfit implies he's meant to be on his knees a lot, because it has knee guards.

      Rena Rouge's outfit, in addition to resembling Majestia's, also reminds me of a cartoon fox, though I can't pinpoint which one I'm thinking of. The black on her suit are clearly meant to look like opera gloves and tall boots. She is less inspired by the nine-tailed fox (like Lila) and more by a cute catroon fox, but I don't really have much to add about a personality, ha. Like she's obviously a huge fan of superheroes is the impression I get.

      With Hawk Moth, he's stylish and classy, very sleek. He dresses like a gentleman (with a silver ski mask of doom), and his suit looks like satin and silk. He looks rich. The kind of person who does not like to get their hands dirty. He wears gloves that sometimes look like satin, sometimes look like leather, and sometimes just look like his hands are made of liquid metal because of how smooth and flawless the gloves are. His mask looks like latex or  Almost every inch of him is covered, save for the area around his mouth and his eyes. Even his eyelids are covered up by the black satin-like material that covered his neck and accents his coat. He also noticeably has no ears and that butterfly pattern makes it look like he has cheekbones that could cut glass until you see them from the side. His nose looks kinda pointy, too, like he could stab someone with it. The fact that his neck is a different colour makes his mask kind of skull-ish, too. Why have I never noticed how creepy his design is? Like the dude does not want people knowing who he is, that much is clear, considering how much of him is covered and how we know his very body structure changes, at last facially, from the silhouettes.

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    • I still can't get over Rena Rouge's ponytail and Carapace's hood.

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