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  • Alya, Marinette's best friend doesn't notice she's Ladybug! There was just too many clues for her to miss. Nino and Alya can't even notice the similarities between Ladybug and Marinette and Chat and Adrien! Marinette spends most of her class time with Adrien, vice versa. Marinette was able to discover Adrien's entire schedule, but not end up seeing him transform!

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    • Because plot convince.

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    • I just dont understand this one thing, in Mr Pigeon, Cat Noir sneezes and says he's allergic to feathers, and then at the end of the episode, Adrian puts on Marinette's derby hat, which has a pigeon feather on it, and he sneezes, and then says to Marinette and Alya-"Sorry, I'm allergic to feathers!" 

      How did Marinette not put two and two together and realize he's Cat Noir!? It just doesn't make any sense!


      P.S, the episode was still very good though.

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    • Sophiedp wrote: Because plot convince.

      For those of you who want a non-meta explanation, the Miraculouses "hide" their owner. Obvious connections slip past onlookers. I'm guessing one has to either see the Kwami or the Miraculous itself, and also that Kwami are unable to notice another Kwami or Miraculous unless pointed out to them. There is no possible downside to CN and LB knowing each other's identities, so if Tikki had seen Plagg or the Cat ring by now, she would have said something, unless there's a rule about that. We'll probably get more in-depth explanations on the anime, than the kid's show.

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      @Cat of the Night204: Actually, I agree with that. But one rrror you have, his name is spelled Adrien, with "i-e-n", not A-N.

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    • GabbyComitotheGreat wrote:

      @Cat of the Night204: Actually, I agree with that. But one rrror you have, his name is spelled Adrien, with "i-e-n", not A-N.

      It's not nice to correct an error like that. It doesn't matter if they spelt his name wrong, their point still stands. Also, you spelt "error" wrong yourself.

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    • MaliciousMallard wrote:

      Sophiedp wrote: Because plot convince.

      For those of you who want a non-meta explanation, the Miraculouses "hide" their owner. Obvious connections slip past onlookers. I'm guessing one has to either see the Kwami or the Miraculous itself, and also that Kwami are unable to notice another Kwami or Miraculous unless pointed out to them. There is no possible downside to CN and LB knowing each other's identities, so if Tikki had seen Plagg or the Cat ring by now, she would have said something, unless there's a rule about that. We'll probably get more in-depth explanations on the anime, than the kid's show.

      Ah, but you see there is a downside to them knowing each other's identities; them being akumatised/mind controlled. Anyone can be akumatised, some people are just harder targets than others. If they told someone their identity, even to each other, and they were then akumatised they could just tell Hawk Moth who they really are and he can concentrate his efforts on attacking their friends and family. This extends to mind control, a Dark Cupid Cat Noir could have just revealed her identity out of hated for her.

      I get the feeling Tikki and Plagg know the truth, Wayzz was able to sense Nooroo's power activating despite being nowhere near him. Tikki and Plagg have been meters away from each other almost every day at school, they could very well know but for their reasons they keep quiet.

      Back to the matter at hand I think it all comes down to personality changes. Marinette is a clumsy, shy, awkward girl who trips over her own feet. How could she possibly be this strong, fearless, sometimes sassy girl who can swing like Tarzan? Adrien is a cool, reserved, mellow guy and know as that throughout the world. How could he be the punny, outgoing, lovesick fool with the messy hair?

      It's also down to outfits, people see Ladybug for the red with black spots and would struggle to recognise her without it. If Charlie Chaplain were to change his clothes and shave his moustache do you think you could recognise him?

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    • I agree with Evil Tree.

      This is something I call the Superman Effect.To us it seems so obvious that Clark Kent is Superman.The only difference is the glasses.But the charecters think of his as a god-like being.They cant wrap their mind around the fanct that he is Superman.They don't believe the person they hold to such a high esteem, the person they bassicaly worship is is a mere repoter they see almost every day.

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    • Sorry for all the spelling errors.I was on a roll. :)

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    • Yeah, Ladybug and Cat Noir's personalities compared to their civilian identities are probably why they and others don't pick up on their obvious identities. Now, if they were to change ther HAIR for once they I would be %100 sold on them never recognizing each other. 

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    • DarkClaw3 wrote:
      Yeah, Ladybug and Cat Noir's personalities compared to their civilian identities are probably why they and others don't pick up on their obvious identities. Now, if they were to change ther HAIR for once they I would be %100 sold on them never recognizing each other. 

      Well Cat Noir's hair does change by getting longer and messier when he transforms so that's something. Marinette just gets those ribbons on her pigtails though, I used to think her hair became a lighter blue when she transformed but it was only the lighting on the screenshots.

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    • really?

      I've noticed that Chat Noir is comparatively more tanned, considerably more buff, and a tad taller than Adrien himself

      Meanwhile, Ladybug is dramatically taller (using Adrien as a reference), her hair is very slightly darker, and her eyes are a bit different than Marinette's

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    • Does anyone remember that one episode of Static Shock in which Ebon and all the other villains discover Static's identity because he never disguised his hair or his voice? I imagine that that might happen in Miraculous eventually. 

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    • My theory has always been that the Miraculous cloak their users' identities. I know it sounds like an easy way to explain it away, but it's not that unlikely. After all, the Miraculouses are magic, right? Also, several people have said (here and elsewhere) that Tikki and Plagg knew all along, and their "proof" is that Wayzz sensed Nooroo's aura in Stoneheart pt. 1. Firstly, Wayzz only senses that the Moth Miraculous has been activated, and that it's a negative aura, NOT the fact that Nooroo is close or far away or anything like that. So Tikki and Plagg have no way of knowing that the other kwami is close. 

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    • Honestly, I think it's the swap in personalities. The slightly different appearances might help but I think it's mainly the personalities that make them different. You meet Ladybug and you see she's this strong, graceful person, the last thing you would think of is Marinette, who trips so much that she would seem like a hazard on the battlefield. And then you meet Chat Noir, who acts free and jokes around. You wouldn't think of Adrien doing all that because he seems kinda reserved and obedient. But, I don't know... It's my opinion.

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    • Jeanne68 wrote:
      My theory has always been that the Miraculous cloak their users' identities. I know it sounds like an easy way to explain it away, but it's not that unlikely. After all, the Miraculouses are magic, right? Also, several people have said (here and elsewhere) that Tikki and Plagg knew all along, and their "proof" is that Wayzz sensed Nooroo's aura in Stoneheart pt. 1. Firstly, Wayzz only senses that the Moth Miraculous has been activated, and that it's a negative aura, NOT the fact that Nooroo is close or far away or anything like that. So Tikki and Plagg have no way of knowing that the other kwami is close. 

      That's right

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    • In Lady Wifi, when Lady Wifi tried to reveal Ladybug's true identity, the mask didn't come off. "MAGIC!!!" no one figures it out, because yes, the personality change, and because of magic. Alya studies Ladybug but she doesn't figure out it's the very girl she sits next to in class, same like how Marinette doesn't realise the dorky partner of her's is the guy she worships. Although, Even if Marinette saw the proof in front of her, she wouldn't beleive it, until he transformed in front of her, or something. So yeah, i think it's magic, otherwise Alya and Adrien suffer brain damage (please no one take offence!)

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    • MiraculousGirl444 wrote: In Lady Wifi, when Lady Wifi tried to reveal Ladybug's true identity, the mask didn't come off. "MAGIC!!!" no one figures it out, because yes, the personality change, and because of magic. Alya studies Ladybug but she doesn't figure out it's the very girl she sits next to in class, same like how Marinette doesn't realise the dorky partner of her's is the guy she worships. Although, Even if Marinette saw the proof in front of her, she wouldn't beleive it, until he transformed in front of her, or something. So yeah, i think it's magic, otherwise Alya and Adrien suffer brain damage (please no one take offence!)

      When did Adrien transform in front of Marinette?

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    • Sailor Mars wrote:

      MiraculousGirl444 wrote: In Lady Wifi, when Lady Wifi tried to reveal Ladybug's true identity, the mask didn't come off. "MAGIC!!!" no one figures it out, because yes, the personality change, and because of magic. Alya studies Ladybug but she doesn't figure out it's the very girl she sits next to in class, same like how Marinette doesn't realise the dorky partner of her's is the guy she worships. Although, Even if Marinette saw the proof in front of her, she wouldn't beleive it, until he transformed in front of her, or something. So yeah, i think it's magic, otherwise Alya and Adrien suffer brain damage (please no one take offence!)

      When did Adrien transform in front of Marinette?

      Sorry, i misread your comment XD

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    • Guesses:

      1) The Miraculous act like Clark Kent glasses and, except if they unmask themselves to someone, even if someone connect the knots (like Gabriel in the latest episode), the magic protection keeps up and strong;

      2) Marinette and Adrien act different in and out the costumes. Actually, is more difficult in Adrien's case, who's very contained, but as Chat he oozes flamboyant + a slightly more elaborated disguise. Marinette, on the other hand, is just herself with less bumbliness;

      3) Just because.

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    • Gabriel was convinced that Adrien was Cat Noir, wasn't he? (Sorry if I get some things wrong here, my memory is horrible. Please feel free to correct anything I say.) In Gorrizilla, Gabriel let Adrien fall to his death, and didn't allow Ladybug to save him because he was waiting for Adrien to transform into Cat Noir to save himself. When Adrien still wouldn't transform because he trusted Ladybug, Gabriel had no choice but to let Ladybug go to save him. Adrien also used his fan and a cutout of his face to create a fake "Adrien". Along with how Adrien would not transform, even in danger, seeing the fake Adrien was the final nail in the coffin to lead Gabriel off of Adrien's tail. Right? Also, with the magic of the Miraculouses, is it possible that others aren't seeing exactly what we're seeing? To us, Ladybug and Cat Noir might look just like Marinette and Adrien, but what if the people in the world of Miraculous are seeing something different? Of course, the core features they see would probably be the same (Blue hair and eyes for Marinette + Same voice // Green eyes and Blonde Hair for Adrien + Same voice)

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    • Eun-Mi213 wrote: To us, Ladybug and Cat Noir might look just like Marinette and Adrien, but what if the people in the world of Miraculous are seeing something different? Of course, the core features they see would probably be the same (Blue hair and eyes for Marinette + Same voice // Green eyes and Blonde Hair for Adrien + Same voice)

      hmm, you actually have a really good point! I never thought of that :D

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    • Sailor Mars wrote:

      Eun-Mi213 wrote: To us, Ladybug and Cat Noir might look just like Marinette and Adrien, but what if the people in the world of Miraculous are seeing something different? Of course, the core features they see would probably be the same (Blue hair and eyes for Marinette + Same voice // Green eyes and Blonde Hair for Adrien + Same voice)

      hmm, you actually have a really good point! I never thought of that :D

      Remember in one of the episodes where the artist made a sculpture of Ladybug and Cat Noir? It looked like how we see them. Along with the hair and eye color. In the picture that the artist used as reference it showed what we see.

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    • Perhaps the Miraculous inflict selective stupidity on all viewers, or amnesia to forget hints like feather allergies?

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    • Tycio wrote: Perhaps the Miraculous inflict selective stupidity on all viewers, or amnesia to forget hints like feather allergies?

      XDD, yeah for a long time that's what I thought.

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    • So they can keep making the episodes I know I posted something on this as well it is idiotic

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    • Well look at Sailor Moon and most magical girl/superhero themed shows. Most of the times the transfermations are even that big and yet no one can make the comparsion from the smallest detail. At the end of the day it's all about plot and magic! But mostly the magic. 

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    • But "She was there was just too many clues" is NOT proper English grammar.

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    • KitsuneWhisppers wrote: Well look at Sailor Moon and most magical girl/superhero themed shows. Most of the times the transfermations are even that big and yet no one can make the comparsion from the smallest detail. At the end of the day it's all about plot and magic! But mostly the magic. 

      Yeah, that sounds about right :P

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    • Maybe it's like superman where he's actually vibrating a small amount to obscure his features, but it's just not depicted?

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    • Frightningale possibly proved that there is no magic preventing others from seeing the truth when it is not revealed. Because Tikki didn't want Marinette to wear the costume. Although, Plagg did say

      No way! People are blind!

      —Plagg, Frightningale

      Maybe Tikki was just being taking extra precautions.

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    • Because of magic

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    • So... I can get that they don't see themselves because of magic, I'll go with the flow, but the others?? With all the time this people excuse themselves at the same time, for the same amount of time... I mean, Nino and Alya don't find it weird they are always AWOL? I would just start thinking they were cutting class and hooking up somewhere, they are teenagers after all!!! Let alone when Chat Noir and Andrien both are allergic to feathers... or the time when Chat Noir knows that Volpina is Leila, eventhough he wasn't around when she got hummiliated by Ladybug, only Adrien was there... I know that teenagers are self absorbed, but this is in the brink of insanity...

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    • We already know there's some kind of magic preventing Kwamis from being photographed/filmed, perhaps a similar magic clouds the long-term memory or facial recognition of the Miraculous users?

      Wasn't there also an episode similar to The Collector except for preserving the idea that Adrien couldn't be CN or that Marinette couldn't be ladybug? Most hero shows have that trope.

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    • Tycio wrote: We already know there's some kind of magic preventing Kwamis from being photographed/filmed, perhaps a similar magic clouds the long-term memory or facial recognition of the Miraculous users?

      Wasn't there also an episode similar to The Collector except for preserving the idea that Adrien couldn't be CN or that Marinette couldn't be ladybug? Most hero shows have that trope.

      If I am correct,you are talking about the end of frightingale where they go like like Marinette is too clumsy and Adrien is too.. Something. Or you're talking about gorzilla where hawk moth thinks Adrien is CN.

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    • Ah I think I'm remembering Gorizilla where Ladybug coerced some fanboy into wearing Adrien's helmet while CN was fighting, you're right. I guess suspicions haven't been on Marinette as closely as she was onto HM and HM was onto CN requiring diversions, so she hasn't had to play any tricks...

      Unless it was one of the earlier episodes, something to do with Alya's blog? Hard to remember s1 specifics.

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