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  • I'm thinking Adrien's chauffeur, the Gorrilla, will be akumatised in this special. Thomas Astruc has confirmed, sorta, that he does like christmas here, could something happen that day to make him want to take christmas away from everyone but him? Was his dream of being a mall santa to the kids crushed?

    The Bad Santa image we've been given certainly looks muscular enough to be him. What do you guys think?

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    • I think I agree with you on that. The SDCC teaser image also looks kind of like him, although it could also potentially be Tom Dupain. I think it would be really cool if either of those two were Bad Santa.

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    • I don't know. That picture looks like it's telling a different story.

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    • Pof203 wrote:
      I don't know. That picture looks like it's telling a different story.

      What do you mean?

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    • Evil-Tree wrote:
      Pof203 wrote:
      I don't know. That picture looks like it's telling a different story.
      What do you mean?
      Winny Christmas
      This is clearly a picture of a kid dressed like Santa in summer. Does that say anything to you?
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    • Pof203 wrote: This is clearly a picture of a kid dressed like Santa in summer. Does that say anything to you?

      Ooh, I somehow hadn't seen that picture! Interesting!

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    • That picture is meant to be a behind-the-scenes joke by Wilfried of him working on a Christmas episode in the middle of hot summer. I doubt it reflects anything about the actual episode other than its Christmas/winter theme.

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    • Tansyflower wrote:
      That picture is meant to be a behind-the-scenes joke by Wilfried of him working on a Christmas episode in the middle of hot summer. I doubt it reflects anything about the actual episode other than its Christmas/winter theme.

      I see. Guess we still have to wait.

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    • Part of says that it could be Tom. Maybe because he secrety still believes in Santa and was embarresed when everyone found out.

      However, it just ecured to me that apart from the Gorilla and Tom, there are two others who might become Bad Santa: Mr. Damocles and Andre Bourgeois.

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    • Pof203 wrote:
      Part of says that it could be Tom. Maybe because he secrety still believes in Santa and was embarresed when everyone found out.

      However, it just ecured to me that apart from the Gorilla and Tom, there are two others who might become Bad Santa: Mr. Damocles and Andre Bourgeois.

      I said the image looks muscular enough to be him but then I remember how other people changed their body when akumatised, specifically Roger who went from obese to buff or Jalil Kubdel who turned from tall and skinny to even taller and muscular (fitting that he's voice by the same guy who did Broly).

      My point is sometimes physique can clue in on who the person is but sometimes not, akumas can change body shape quite a bit if needs be.

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    • Evil-Tree wrote:
      Pof203 wrote:
      Part of says that it could be Tom. Maybe because he secrety still believes in Santa and was embarresed when everyone found out.

      However, it just ecured to me that apart from the Gorilla and Tom, there are two others who might become Bad Santa: Mr. Damocles and Andre Bourgeois.

      I said the image looks muscular enough to be him but then I remember how other people changed their body when akumatised, specifically Roger who went from obese to buff or Jalil Kubdel who turned from tall and skinny to even taller and muscular (fitting that he's voice by the same guy who did Broly).

      My point is sometimes physique can clue in on who the person is but sometimes not, akumas can change body shape quite a bit if needs be.

      I know. It's just a thought.

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    • I don't think it would be a good idea if it was Marinette's father, it would break her heart. Besides, being Ladybug and his daughter, she would probably stop that from happening before it even does.

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    • I think it could be gorilla because on his page it says he loves Christmas. Also it looks like him

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    • Evil-Tree wrote:


      I said the image looks muscular enough to be him but then I remember how other people changed their body when akumatised, specifically Roger who went from obese to buff or Jalil Kubdel who turned from tall and skinny to even taller and muscular (fitting that he's voice by the same guy who did Broly).

      My point is sometimes physique can clue in on who the person is but sometimes not, akumas can change body shape quite a bit if needs be.

      I know this is a topic for Santa, but maybe this says something about Hawkmoth? People say he can't be Gabriel because their face shapes are dissimilar, but if his alum as can change body shape, can't he have a changed face shape?

      Okay, sorry for changing the topic... Everyone can go back to normal now... XD

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    • Calliope37 wrote:

      Evil-Tree wrote:


      I said the image looks muscular enough to be him but then I remember how other people changed their body when akumatised, specifically Roger who went from obese to buff or Jalil Kubdel who turned from tall and skinny to even taller and muscular (fitting that he's voice by the same guy who did Broly).

      My point is sometimes physique can clue in on who the person is but sometimes not, akumas can change body shape quite a bit if needs be.

      I know this is a topic for Santa, but maybe this says something about Hawkmoth? People say he can't be Gabriel because their face shapes are dissimilar, but if his alum as can change body shape, can't he have a changed face shape?

      Okay, sorry for changing the topic... Everyone can go back to normal now... XD

      It's certainly possible, Adrien's eyes change dramaticly when he transforms. Don't know why they would put so much hinting that Gabriel is Hawk Moth and make their faces that drasticly different. Keeping us guessing? Gabriel is a red herring and Hawk Moth is someone else?

      Either way I see us finding out Bad Santa's identiy before Hawk Moth's.

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    • Will bad Santa appear in the Christmas special?

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    • PelizTheMiraculousPanda wrote: Will bad Santa appear in the Christmas special?

      Supposedly! He probably won't actually be called "Bad Santa", but that's the episode he was designed for!

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    • oh, thanks ;)

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    • Pof203 wrote:

      Evil-Tree wrote:
      Pof203 wrote:
      I don't know. That picture looks like it's telling a different story.
      What do you mean?
      Winny Christmas
      This is clearly a picture of a kid dressed like Santa in summer. Does that say anything to you?

      This kid will make a role as santa.

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    • Pof203 wrote:
      Tansyflower wrote:
      That picture is meant to be a behind-the-scenes joke by Wilfried of him working on a Christmas episode in the middle of hot summer. I doubt it reflects anything about the actual episode other than its Christmas/winter theme.
      I see. Guess we still have to wait.

      It's not a "guess." That is Wilfried. That is him drawing the storyboards for the Christmas special in the summer and being miserable because it's hot and he probably wanted to work on season 2 instead of this special.

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    • Well, according to the latest trailer, we now know that Bad Santa won't be anybody we already know, but will instead be a new character.

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    • Will Bad Santa be a person dressed as Santa or is actually Santa? 🤔

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    • Lilanette wrote:
      Well, according to the latest trailer, we now know that Bad Santa won't be anybody we already know, but will instead be a new character.

      Well I did make this thread back in July, a lot has changed since then.

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    • Evil-Tree wrote:

      Lilanette wrote:
      Well, according to the latest trailer, we now know that Bad Santa won't be anybody we already know, but will instead be a new character.

      Well I did make this thread back in July, a lot has changed since then.

      Of course, I was just trying to add the latest update.

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    • Lilanette wrote:

      Evil-Tree wrote:


      Lilanette wrote:
      Well, according to the latest trailer, we now know that Bad Santa won't be anybody we already know, but will instead be a new character.
      Well I did make this thread back in July, a lot has changed since then.
      Of course, I was just trying to add the latest update.

      Yeah, well just means the Gorilla is still open to be akumatised in the main series.

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    • Evil-Tree wrote:
      Yeah, well just means the Gorilla is still open to be akumatised in the main series.

      Yes! I'm looking forward to see how that could play out!

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    • me too! 😉

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