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  • Chi of Darkness wrote:

    Actually he sensed when Hawk Moth transformed, not when Nooroo cam out of the brooch. Maybe Duusu is out of her miraculous, but isn't used and is separated from it? If Nathalie or Mrs Agreste will be Le Paon, maybe they just let the miraculous being left in the safe, without renouncing Duusu, hence why the peacock miraculous looks like that? It might look more like Duusu when she's in it, like in the book. Maybe's she's hanging around either Nathalie or Mrs Agreste, while her miraculous is safe. I don't see why not, they were only bonded to the miraculous thanks to the mage, but maybe that doesn't mean they can't get away from it, Tikki spend quite some distance and time away from Marinette in Princess Fragrance, and she looked fine even if she was sick. So Wayzz does not sense when the kwami is out of it's miraculous, he senses when it's using their powers. Either that or he was just bidding his time, he must have scanned the entire book first, then asked Nooroo everything he needed to know so he could make plans. Could have taken some time. Since he's playing with very powerful things, he must be aware of the risks and consequences before going for it. Maybe he just decided he was prepared for it and began his career as Hawk Moth only when he had everything he needed to know to make sure the miraculouses and his wish would get to him.

    Hawk Moth sounded so heartbroken when he discovered that the things he had in his hand weren't the miraculouses.

    Like I said, we're making people mad by talking on the "Dark Owl" page.

    But if that's true, then that raises even more questions od why he didn't use Nooroo's power before. The thing is, he doesn't speak to Nooroo like he's talked to him a lot, and Nooroo is still happy.

    Here's the problems I have with the green brooch being the Miraculous: for one, it's a completely different shape from the one in the book. It's not just the colour. I've said dozens of times it feels, the feathers are different, the angle the tail is at is different, and the number of feathers don't match up. For another, it still looks like a Peacock, and every other Miraculous loses its colour and becomes inoccuous so you can't tell what animal it's supposed to be. Only Master Fu's bracelet doesn't lose it's colour and animal attributes, merely looking like a jade turtle bracelet, but it does lose colour (according to the art of Carapace), and its animal attributes are engraved on it, they aren't an addition or part of the colouring. But it's still only one colour. Following that logic, at most the Peacock should at most look like an albino peacock pin if it doesn't look like a flower bud. For the green brooch to be the Miraculous, it has to change colour (not lose colour, change colour), its feathers need to become narrower, there need to be more feathers, and they need to fan out. It has to undergo a pretty significant change. Consider what the other four do: turn black and lose wings, turn black and lose spots, turn silver and lose cat paw, turn solid jade green and lose black markings. Compare that to what the blue Peacock Miraculous has to do in order to become the green brooch. Pretty much all of them seem to lose their colour and animal attribute (the Turtle actually does this, indirectly anyway). Obviously not all of them can do that, like Rena Rouge's will at most lose all of its colour. But the thing is, none of them change their true shape. The wings are an addition to the Moth Brooch, not part of it. They're its animal attribute, like the entire bee picture is on the comb. I'm pretty sure the Bee and the Fox will not be changing shapes when they become kwami-less f they follow the trends set by the other four we've seen. The Bee should just look like a rather plain decorative comb, and the Fox will likely look like a flame or a fish hook. The Peacock should also follow suit and not change shape, just lose its colour and animal attribute (which would be the body of the peacock, I imagine).

    I remember him sounding mad, not heartbroken, but I only saw the epsiode the once.

    ps congrats on going up in the wiki ranks.

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    • Chi of Darkness wrote:

      They might have done the four like that, but the other 3 could have something different. If Alya gonna wear it in her neck and Chloé the comb on her hair, it would must not look at all like the miraculouses that the new heroes have, otherwise they would get spotted immediatly. Nino and Alya dates and them being super heroes and getting a bracelet and a necklace at the same time new heroes showed up would blow their covers to each others, and I think Adrien would notice the comb on Chloé's hair if she takes her sunglasses off. For the peacock, might be something different or to confuse people so that they won't go for it, they say look it could be it, but it doesn't look like the one in the book, must not be the one, maybe?

      For the first 4, maybe, but maybe the peacock and the bee does, I say the bee because it could lose the wings when Pollen is out of it, otherwise it would be quite big and easy to notice Chloé is Queen Bee. Might be a possibility. I don't see how the fox could change apart from losing color.

      I know. Still pretty though. Then again, it wasn't show up front, more in the background. Maybe it was an animation or color error? Maybe? Maybe? We got a close up of the bee miraculous, we never got the peacock one much, so I would have reservation until it shows up close again.

      Alya's necklace can be worn down the front of her shirt, so all that would be seen is the chain (and even then, the empty pendant will be the same shape but a different colour and she might be the one to give her Miraculous back to Ladybug) and Chloé's comb won't look like it has a bee on it when it's in her hair. It should look something like this I would expect (the copper colouring is just a concept) and I doubt it'll maintain its gold colour nor will you be able to see the teeth of the comb when its in her hair. So there's no problem. Adrien has never seen the Bee comb, so it doesn't matter if he noticed Chloe wearing a comb in her hair. Keep in mind that Adrien's ring is pretty distinct but no one has exactly noticed his ring looks like Cat Noir's, not even Marinette even though "Dark Owl" establishes she knows the exact details of the ring well enough to make a replica of it.

      The length of the Fox's chain seems to change or Alya can have her own chain- it's really short sitting in the box (and has no clasp). I mean if you look at it, it's more of a short bracelet than a necklace chain. So we have no idea how long it'll be on Alya, and it might be long enough she can hide it under her shirt, or like with Marinette's plain black earrings and Adrien's ring, no one will really notice it looks like Rena Rouge's pendant because it's the wrong colour. Or they'll mistake it for being from the Gabriel line like Lila's is. The chain Lila has it on seems to be as long as the one I always wear, so a 16" chain. Alya's'll probably be similarly lengthed, so people not noticing it is the most likely option, especially since she, Chloe, and Nino will most likely not be all that active. Speaking of, Nino's bracelet is pretty blatant, especially since Marinette knows what the Turtle looks like. So there's also that.

      By the way in looking up Lila's necklace to see the chain length her fake one has, I notice the box she got her pendant in is exactly the same box in design that Gabriel put Nooroo's Miraculous in. Hah.

      I'm pretty sure it's not a colour error, because I believe those pages are drawn like Master Fu's flashbacks were, they're not 3D art like everything else. It's more likely that the green brooch isn't the Miraculous, because the only proof that it's the Miraculous is that it's been shown in the box but never in the show itself aside from in an error. Just during the opening. But the spellbook and the pattern the other six follow (a purple Miraculous creating a purple suit and being tied to a purple kwami, a green Miraculous crating a green suit and being tied to a green kwami, a black Miraculous tied to a black kwami that creates a black suit, a black-spotted red kwami with a black-spotted red Miraculous and a black-spotted red suit, an orange kwami with an orange Miraculous and an orange suit, and a black-striped yellow kwami with a black-striped yellow Miraculous and a black-striped yellow suit) indicates otherwise.

      I'm aware there's a possibility I'm wrong, but I'm not going to just assume the green brooch is the Miraculous, either, when so much evidence contradicts that. I would guess we aren't getting the Peacock one because they don't want to draw attention to how the brooch is not a real Miraculous. They haven't exactly shown us the Turtle's page, either.

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      Alya's necklace can be worn down the front of her shirt, so all that would be seen is the chain (and even then, the empty pendant will be the same shape but a different colour and she might be the one to give her Miraculous back to Ladybug) and Chloé's comb won't look like it has a bee on it when it's in her hair. It should look something like this I would expect (the copper colouring is just a concept) and I doubt it'll maintain its gold colour nor will you be able to see the teeth of the comb when its in her hair. So there's no problem. Adrien has never seen the Bee comb, so it doesn't matter if he noticed Chloe wearing a comb in her hair. Keep in mind that Adrien's ring is pretty distinct but no one has exactly noticed his ring looks like Cat Noir's, not even Marinette even though "Dark Owl" establishes she knows the exact details of the ring well enough to make a replica of it.

      The length of the Fox's chain seems to change or Alya can have her own chain- it's really short sitting in the box (and has no clasp). I mean if you look at it, it's more of a short bracelet than a necklace chain. So we have no idea how long it'll be on Alya, and it might be long enough she can hide it under her shirt, or like with Marinette's plain black earrings and Adrien's ring, no one will really notice it looks like Rena Rouge's pendant because it's the wrong colour. Or they'll mistake it for being from the Gabriel line like Lila's is. The chain Lila has it on seems to be as long as the one I always wear, so a 16" chain. Alya's'll probably be similarly lengthed, so people not noticing it is the most likely option, especially since she, Chloe, and Nino will most likely not be all that active. Speaking of, Nino's bracelet is pretty blatant, especially since Marinette knows what the Turtle looks like. So there's also that.

      By the way in looking up Lila's necklace to see the chain length her fake one has, I notice the box she got her pendant in is exactly the same box in design that Gabriel put Nooroo's Miraculous in. Hah.

      I'm pretty sure it's not a colour error, because I believe those pages are drawn like Master Fu's flashbacks were, they're not 3D art like everything else. It's more likely that the green brooch isn't the Miraculous, because the only proof that it's the Miraculous is that it's been shown in the box but never in the show itself aside from in an error. Just during the opening. But the spellbook and the pattern the other six follow (a purple Miraculous creating a purple suit and being tied to a purple kwami, a green Miraculous crating a green suit and being tied to a green kwami, a black Miraculous tied to a black kwami that creates a black suit, a black-spotted red kwami with a black-spotted red Miraculous and a black-spotted red suit, an orange kwami with an orange Miraculous and an orange suit, and a black-striped yellow kwami with a black-striped yellow Miraculous and a black-striped yellow suit) indicates otherwise.

      I'm aware there's a possibility I'm wrong, but I'm not going to just assume the green brooch is the Miraculous, either, when so much evidence contradicts that. I would guess we aren't getting the Peacock one because they don't want to draw attention to how the brooch is not a real Miraculous. They haven't exactly shown us the Turtle's page, either.

      Maybe. Then again he figured out immediatly that Chloé was Antibug, I doubt he would be fooled another time. I would go with a theory I saw on Tumblr: Marinette wants to give the bee miraculous to Adrien because he's as sweet as honey and also she could spend more time with him, seriously if she's the one who gave the fox and the turtle to Alya and Nino respectively, I don't see why she wouldn't do the same with Adrien, Adrien can't have 2 miraculouses, so he gives it to Chloé, after some more character development. I could see that happening, and Ladybug would wonder why it is Queen Bee instead of Adrien and why he gave it away if he could transform into a super hero, might lead her to suspect him of something, or if the unknown miraculous holder is a guy, she might think it's him? Cause she'll never believe he's Chat Noir unless he transforms/detransforms in front of her.

      Uh, I think the short chain was Lila's while the real thing looks a bit longer in Master Fu's box. I'm pretty sure Marinette gives the turtle to him, but it could also be Master Fu, Nino seems to be the only person who got akumatized for being upset about someone else being wronged for no reasons (Adrien). 

      I wonder if Nooroo told Gabriel in which kind of box he's actually coming to for that?

      There's something else thought. In the first opening, we see Nooroo flying with a trail that is his color, but in the opening of season 2, his trail his more dark, and Duusu's is obviously paler than she is. I wonder if maybe, he akumatized Duusu when she was touching her miraculous, hence why it doesn't look like in the book, it changed color, and so did she. But he keeps her around until Le Paon shows up, and the akuma also evilize her, and he can't destroy the miraculous, so he's stuck with ehr as his boss, and her being half akumatized means nothing reaches her, making her look monstrous compared to Hawk Moth who would now look like a baby? Duusu could have been mad at being lost for over a century, so Hawk Moth akumatized her then send her back to her miraculous until he could find someone useful to assist him, since Nathalie helps him so much with his civilian identity, he can't have her for the job because he needs her to be efficient and not wanting to kill someone when's she displeased or something, so maybe if Adrien's mom come back, she might go look behind her portrait, I bet she knows the existance of that safe and it's code, and when she would see the peacock not looking like it should be, she takes it and then get akumatized/possessed by? Duusu and everything gets through the windows, Gabriel can't save her and has to apply to her, he can't fight against her, so she usurp him and now is the one in control. I wonder if that could be right? Just all wild and crazy hypothesis, nothing concrete here, apart from what I said about the opening.

      At this point we could all be wrong, and I bet we are but until we know the truth, all hypothesis and ideas are welcomed to be discussed, confirmed or jossed.

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  • Chi of Darkness wrote:

    Going that way, they take it seriously since Alya make a plan of that level just so Marinette would get a date with Adrien, and Marinette actually going along with it after the questions and nervousness, it would be hard for the girls to not take it seriously. Wonder why they thought it was a good idea however, then again Alya doesn't have the best ideas either, taking a picture of the inside of Chloé's locker, staying around to film instead of leaving makes her getting captured by the Pharaoh, or in Origins, her getting too close gets her with a car pinning her to a wall, sometimes she does have some good ideas and makes pretty good points, other times... I hope she'll get better as Rena Rouge.

    Indeed, and I love him for it. Unlike Marinette, he can make some good excuses with his schedule, he can say he has a photoshoot, or a piano lesson, or something else.

    Because she can't think straight much when it comes to Adrien, but if something important to her makes it more preocuppying than her crush on him, then she might. Might be case of the lesser of the two evil/fear/problem/whatever you want it. Like you know, if something usually makes you nervous a lot but then something bigger comes in the picture, suddently that something you usually have problems with sounds not so big deal comparing to the other thing more important? Like you seems to be stressed about not doing something, only to be reminded that there is something else more essantial and that that little something is pretty trivial comparing to the other thing who is much more urgent/important/bigger? Giving you an example here: I'm afraid of heights and I hate taking a plane or an helicopter (took the plane twice, helicopter once). Between the 2 of them, I would go with the helicopter. Why? Helicopters don't fly high enough to get the headache you gets when you're in a plane at maximum altitude. Kills me everytime, plus that I got sick both time I took the plane. Also I thnk I would have a better chance at surviving at a helicopter crash than a plane crash.

    Continuing over here since someone got mad. Alya doesn't need to take her obsession seriously, no one does. They just need to take her crush seriously. And no, Alya doesn't have the best plans. She's very genre savvy, and I think she knows she's putting herself in danger but that's what comic book reporters just do. She thinks in cliches.

    Yeah, but he's not always the best at it. Sometimes his lies are pretty terrible. But you can't blame Marinette, she doesn't have a bunch of ready-made excuses at her disposal like Adrien.

    Yeah, but she's devleoped as a character past that, now she only lapses into the awkwardness when caught off-guard or when she doesn't know what to say. I just disagree with you about this- I think Marinette has actually started growing as a character and can actually talk to Adrien now, but lapses back into being unable to talk to him.

    I don't like heights, either, but I'd take a plane rather than drive somewhere. Driving makes me really motion sick even if it's only for a half hour and I only got sick on a plane when I was a kid.

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  • Chiiiiiiiii </whine> I need a little help with the French D'Argencourt speaks in "Riposte" cuz I decided to work on the transcript. Also the transcript for "Darkblade" is messed up because someone replaced every instance of "par le fait" with something weird. I would fix it but I straight-up do not know if that's actually what he says.

    Like I can figure most of it out, but I have no clue what he says after "Attaque!" and before "Continue" when he interrupts Marinette and Adrien's match. I just stick what likely words he says in Google translate and try and find the one that's correct but I don't even know where to begin in that section.

    I'd ask my brother but he doesn't want spoilers so I can't.

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    • Chi of Darkness wrote:

      Okay. Next time, start with saying how you want it.

      I don't mind your rambling. My parents are worse than you at rambling. So I'm used to it. ;)

      Well, I did say what I wanted, just not with the right wording. Thanks again (:

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    • You're welcome.

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  • Hello! For future reference, to help shorten messages on the forum when quoting, remove the older quotes and leave the most recent quote behind. The easiest option is to highlight the inner quotes and delete them until they are gone, but you can also go into source mode (clicking the button with the brackets) and erase from there. This way, your posts won't get too long and be frustrations for people skimming through the forum discussion.

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  • I don't think we met, hi, I'm Secret, and I'm here to ask you if it's alright to use this picture, because I told NintendoSoul that I personally think this one is better for her info box picture, I already put the picture on, and I was worried.

    Very worried

    When I realised it belonged to you.
    Reflekta 7

    It is quite small to, xD

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  • Hello! First, don't forget to use present tense. Second, while Origin spoilers are now allowed, on pages we aren't using US Spoiler on, we need to use the Spoiler templates to hide them until the Origin episodes premiere in the US.

    Thank you!

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  • Hey there! I've seen that pratically the 95% of your edits are pieces of information coming from the new French episodes (from Kung Food onward). However, you must know that we have to hide those kinds of information with some templates because they are considered spoiler! So here I am to teach you how to use Template:HideSpoiler and Template:SpoilerButton.

    The first serves to hide the spoiler-y information simply this way:

    {{HideSpoiler|Spoiler-y information}}

    Looks like this:

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    You don't see anything? That's because it's hidden, it's the template's job! To show the hidden text you must use the Spoiler button simply by typing {{SpoilerButton}} that looks like this:


    With this button, you can show everything that's hidden by EVERY HideSpoiler template in a page, so usually you only need one per page (however it needs to be somewhat near the position of the HideSpoiler, so you can visibly see what is revealed once you press the button).

    Some tips when using HideSpoiler and SpoilerButton:

    • Try to put SpoilerButton on top or at the bottom of a paragraph and not in the middle of text.
    • HideSpoiler already leaves a blank line after it, so try not to do it yourself too because it would leave a relatively big unused space in the page (always use the previews to see how it looks).
    • When using bullet points (which are what I'm using now and what is in the Trivia sections) use HideSpoiler like this
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    Because the latter doesn't work.
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  • Hello! You're doing good on the wiki, but I just need to let you know a few things.

    When you write events from episodes in articles, use present tense for them.

    Also, we're trying to hide spoilers from "Kung Food" (episode 14) to "The Puppeteer" and beyond until they premiere in the US, due to this wiki being used by people just following the English version on Nickelodeon. If you add any information that comes from those episodes to a page, using a HideSpoiler would be helpful for other editors.

    Thank you!

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  • Could you put a reference down for the synopsis? Thanks in advance! :)

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  • Hi there! I see you've been doing some speed editing on some of the Wiki pages. Looking through them I thought I would let you know of a few things.

    I noticed you're spelling "although" like "althought." There is no "t" at the end. ^_^ I also noticed you're using "it's" when it should be "its" "It's" is a contraction, and is short for "it is". "Its" is possessive. For example:

    "It's my cat." uses "It's" because you can turn "It's" into "It is."

    "It is my cat."

    "Its toy was broken." Would NOT be "It's" because you cannot replace "Its" with "It is."

    "It is toy was broken." does not make sense, so you'd use "Its."

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