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Félix was more an anime cliché. That's why we discarded him.

Thomas Astruc, Twitter

Félix Agreste[1] was the original version of Cat Noir that was seen in the Ladybug PV. According to Thomas Astruc, he and Adrien are not the same character.[2]

Félix was a darker character that Thomas created to be Marinette's love interest and Cat Noir's alter ego, but Félix came off as an anime cliché, and no one, including Thomas, was convinced by his dynamic with Ladybug as a couple of heroes.[3] This led to the creation of an entirely new character, Adrien Agreste, to be Cat Noir.

For a while, Thomas considered bringing Félix back at some point, but since then, he doesn't seem to have intentions to use him, eventually outright stating that Félix will never appear.[4][5][6]

Appearance

Physical appearance

Félix was tall with pale blond, combed-back hair and light blueish-gray eyes.

Civilian attire

In civilian form, he wore a light gray long-sleeved dress shirt underneath a gray vest, a black tie, dark gray dress pants, and black dress shoes. On his right middle finger, he wore a black cat-shaped ring with green eyes and a red jewel on its forehead.

As Cat Noir

Cat Noir wore a black suit with a golden bell on his chest. He had cat ears, a cat tail, claws on his fingers, and a belt around his waist with compartments. Additionally, he wore mid-thigh high boots and a black face mask that covered his eyebrows and his nose. His sclerae were green, and his hair was messier and untamed.

For more of Félix's outfits and designs, see Félix Agreste/Designs.

Personality

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Félix irritated by Marinette's advances.

Félix was serious and reserved, keeping to himself and not being openly friendly. He coldly refused Marinette's feelings towards him and he got exasperated with Plagg's troublemaking behavior, as seen when Plagg knocks books off a shelf onto him. He liked to read books and disliked his bad luck, wanting to get rid of his powers to be normal again.

However, as Cat Noir, Félix became wild, outgoing, and expressive, though still being serious and focused when it came to fighting crime. He seemed to get nicer and more optimistic in his transformed state, as well, treating Ladybug kindly in comparison to how he treated others regularly. He tried to seduce Ladybug in order to receive a kiss from her, which would rid him of the "bad luck" from the ring and remove the ring itself from his finger.[7]

Abilities

As a civilian

Félix ignoring Marinette

Félix using his bad luck on Marinette.

The ring's bad luck affected Félix and allowed him to project it onto others, even when he wasn't transformed. For example, in a concept image, he touches a tree, with his hand surrounded by bad luck energy, causing an apple to drop on Marinette's head.

As Cat Noir

Cat Noir Black Storm and Black Hole concept art

Concept art of Black Storm and Black Hole.

The specifics of all of Félix's abilities as Cat Noir are unknown, but he appears to have had enhanced skills, such as agility, speed, and strength. His powers that he can utilize in civilian form were also probably available to use when he was transformed.

As seen in concept art in the later stages with Félix, Cat Noir had additional abilities related to his ring. He had Black Storm, where he points his ring out and releases a massive ball of dark energy, and Black Hole, where he puts his right hand on the ground and creates a small hole to capture people.

Relationships

Marinette Dupain-Cheng/Ladybug

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Cat Noir presenting a flower to Ladybug.

Félix is immensely irked by Marinette and her crush on him. He seems aware that she likes him, but he doesn't reciprocate her interest, often responding to her by ignoring her, rejecting her invitations, and avoiding her.

When Marinette is Ladybug, Félix romantically pursues her. While trying to get a kiss to remove his powers by flirting with her, he also appears to care deeply about her. Her lack of feelings towards him is exasperating for him, not understanding why she doesn't accept a flower he brings for her. He finds her attractive, being awestruck by her as she leaps by him. When she is fighting the Mime, he watches in concern, and he talks naturally with her as they look over Paris at the end of the PV.

Plagg

In the Ladybug PV, Félix doesn't take kindly to Plagg's mischief, and he is rather impatient with him.

Quantic Kids

Quantic Kids Universe early concept

Félix viewing Marinette and Quantic Kids members as civilians from a distance.

It's unknown what Félix's relationship was like with the other Quantic Kids members by the time the idea and team members were dropped, but as seen in concept art when they're in civilian forms, he sits separately from them and Marinette, looking disinterested. When they're transformed, he looks like he gets along with them decently, grinning while with them in a drawing by Thomas Astruc.

Sightings

Comics and books


Other


Trivia

  • Originally, Félix was a name that fans called him without knowing his real name. In an early synopsis, his name was confirmed to be Félix, but later on, sources said it was Adrien, confusing fans. It wasn't until later that they learned that Félix had not only been Cat Noir's original civilian name, but also a separate character from Adrien.
    • He was named Felix because it means happy/lucky in Latin.[8]
      Felix Agreste concept art

      Félix's PV appearance, as showcased in the Ladybug Artbook.

  • Félix's appearance is very different from the current version of Adrien. Adrien has more casual clothing with a variety of colors, green eyes, darker skin and a less tidy hairstyle. As Cat Noir, Adrien's outfit has lower boots, gloves, and a staff for a weapon.
    • Their personalities are also different. Adrien is less reserved and much kinder in his civilian form, and he is nicer to Marinette and is her friend, but oblivious to her feelings for him.
    • As opposed to Adrien, Félix's ring cannot come off anytime unless he gets a kiss from Ladybug. In addition, while wearing the ring, Félix is cursed to have bad luck, but it is unknown if this curse or any curse affects Adrien.[7]
    • Félix's cat ears when he transforms are real, unlike Adrien's, whose cat ears are fake.
  • When the unused concept of Quantic Kids was in development, Félix was still Cat Noir, as seen in a concept art. He continued to be, even after the Quantic Kids idea was shelved.
  • If an anime or 2D version of Ladybug is made, Thomas Astruc has stated that the Cat Noir featured would probably still be Adrien, because Félix isn't a strong enough character to write for on a long term.[9]
    • This has been proven to be true, as revealed for the Miraculous Ladybug OVA.[10]
    • There are also no plans for any variation of Félix to appear in the current 3D show.[6]
  • Félix is considered to be a fanon character entirely now, having been dropped since the Toei Animation test, and not planned to ever return again.[11]

Gallery

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References

  1. https://twitter.com/BeMiraculousLB/status/953347465830256641 "#TransformationTuesday featuring our favorite grumpy, 2d Promotional Video boy: Felix Agreste. #MiraculousLadybug" archive
  2. https://twitter.com/Thomas_Astruc/status/646657309360455680
  3. Thomas has a few Twitter posts explaining this (the first and the second). Also, he posted a link to a Tumblr post by fan marblegreensreviews that expresses the reasons why he and the crew dropped Félix.
  4. https://twitter.com/OrangeRux/status/647421010296238080
  5. https://twitter.com/Thomas_Astruc/status/698923032044269568
  6. 6.0 6.1 https://twitter.com/Thomas_Astruc/status/752991955148242944
  7. 7.0 7.1 Explanation of the kissing element in older concepts (with sources) from Tumblr user miraculeusecoccinelle.
  8. https://twitter.com/Thomas_Astruc/status/831445336027697152
  9. https://twitter.com/Lauren_Jay_/status/665819617282011136
  10. https://twitter.com/Thomas_Astruc/status/679310947933102080
  11. Miraculous Meetup on May 17, 2017, said by Wilfried Pain.

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Teenagers

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Children

AugustElla CésaireEtta CésaireKenyaManon ChamackMrs. Michelle's son

Adults

Adrien's bodyguardAlec CataldiAnarka CouffaineAndréAndré BourgeoisArletteArmand D'ArgencourtAudrey BourgeoisAugust's motherBob RothBreakerButler JeanCaline BustierChrisClara ContardDoormanEmilie AgresteFire captainFishermanFred HaprèleGabriel AgresteGhetto BlasterGina DupainHowardJagged StoneJalil KubdelJean TretiensJørgenKagami's motherKenya's fatherKillabeeMaidMarlena CésaireMetal Face DMr. DamoclesMr. KubdelMs. MendeleievMrs. MichelleNadja ChamackNathalie SancoeurOtis CésairePenny RollingPublic EnemyPrince Ali's chaperoneRoger RaincomprixSabine ChengSanta ClausSarahShaolin SoulSimon GrimaultThéo BarbotTom DupainVincentVincent AzaWang ChengWealthy womanXavier RamierXY

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AlbertMarkov

Future characters

Art teacherCharacter in blue clothingChris LahiffeClara NightingaleLindalee RoseMarc AncielMarinette's grandfatherNora CésaireOndinePhilippe CandeloroSabine's motherThomas AstrucVivica

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